Btw, according to Michelangelo's painting (on Millie's post) what on earth was Eve up to just before she was so rudely interrupted by a talking serpent?
Half banana
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Bible pssssges that are immoral - Lot offering his virgin daughters to be gang raped by homosexual males
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tell me me more about your just & loving god..
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There is no Holy Spirit.
by hoser inthere is no holy spirit.
i lead a double life.
i post on apostate web sites, swear like a sailor, covertly subvert the watchtower religion and do many other things i'd rather not mention.
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Half banana
What sometimes concerns me is that some ex JWs still imagine holy spirit exists. Of course at the point of departure from the org we still are bound to carry some of the old baggage with us but "holy spirit" takes the biscuit as a ludicrous childish joke.
Just how far removed from concrete reality is the whole religion business? There is no tangible evidence for spirits in the first place let alone the magic spirit of a spirit.
To believe in fairy dust you have to believe in fairies.
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7 day conventions?
by HereIgo indid any of you attend the old school week long conventions?
i have heard stories and it seems like these were mostly in the 70's and 80's before my time.
i couldn't imagine.
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Yes Alan, the assembly days were reduced in number but they were still all about the opposite sex...........
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Deborah Layton - Jonestown Survivor
by Tallon insaw this on the exjw reddit forum - very thought provoking.. "when your own thoughts are forbidden, when your questions are not allowed and our doubts are punished, when contacts with friendships outside of the organisation are censored, we are being abused, for the ends never justify the means.. when our heart aches knowing we have made friendships and secret attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave, we are in danger.. when we consider staying in a group because we cannot bear the loss, disappointment and sorrow our leaving will cause for ourselves and those we have come to love, we are in a cult .... when family and friends are used as a weapon in order to force us to stay in an organisation, something has gone terribly wrong".. deborah layton.
seductive poison: a jonestown survivor's story of life and death in the people's temple.. .
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Deborah Layton summed up the reality of being in a cult.
The terrifying thing is that when a cult is in decline or its leaders are, their only defence is to take the most extreme measures to maintain control or avoid exposure and the humiliation which goes with it. The Jonestown suicide massacre is testament to this and the deaths caused by Koresh at Waco happened when the authorities challenged the legitimacy of the Davidians cult.
What sort of organisation is it which instills into the imagination of its members the notion of retreating to a hidden bunker?
What organisation is educating its members to put the value of their lives as of secondary importance to an imagined utopian future?
Which organisation is it which has warned its followers to obey its leadership "whether the instructions seem reasonable or not"?
Please don't say that Jehovah's Witnesses are not a cult.
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New Here
by Red.tomato inhi everyone, this is my first post .. it takes a little bit of courage to do it, i have to admit and even thought i have been lurking for some time as time goes by it gets more and more difficult to keep attending meetings and just been around the friends in the congregation.
ever since i learned about the arc something inside of me just broke and it feels pretty hollow, now i pay attention to every single form of manipulation in every direction, what difference it makes with the catholic church or with any other religions ?
i wonder why the publishers are under obligation to report about their lives and decisions to the elders but they don´t keep informed the congregation about what´s going on legally other than russia.
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Hi Red tomato and welcome to the site. You ask, any suggestions?
I would say the first thing is to realize that the JW org is a sham religion and that you have no need to respond to their demands. Ok, they make it very difficult for leavers to negotiate family loyalties because they are a mind controlling cult and want to intimidate you. I suggest that you develop your own interests and life goals and you consign this long episode of folly into the past.
Find good sympathetic worldly friends, get to know why the JW org is a cult, get tertiary education if you have time and can afford it and make sure you realize that the only life you will ever have is precious-- so use your time well to enjoy this life.
All the best to you and do keep posting!
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Who is benefiting from Watchtower Corporation financially
by John Davis inwho do you believe is financially benefiting from watchtower business dealings.
i know about the gold apple watch, but that is only a small percentage of the billions that they have.
so who do you think is keeping all of this money.
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Fulano if you have the real facts on where the money goes do at least let us know.
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The "faithful slave" urges confession in latest Watchtower!
by The Searcher inwatchtower october 2017, page 11, par.
17 - confess and abandon secret sins.
some christians who have committed a serious sin try to cover it over in order to avoid embarrassing themselves or disappointing others.
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Forget the niceties of doctrine, to the JW org doctrine is simply something to distract the minds of the Sheep with.
I reckon they have thought, "Why is Jerhoover not blessing His People any more? (that is why have the contributions plummeted) Ah! it must be that the brothers must be secretly sinning, that's why the holy cult is going down the tubes". Fess up brothers, it's all your fault!
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Is JW.org unbreakable
by UnshackleTheChains ini ask this question for good reason.
let's face it, despite all the books, videos, forums, court cases, hearings, protests etc that have been exposing the society for many years.
jw.org continues to roll on almost 'it seems' unscathed.. for example, just walk into any kingdom hall there is not so much as a whisper about anything that has been exposed outside of jw land.
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A successful business cannot stand still, it has to constantly modernise. The org has “gone electric” with glossy TV studios, commercial PR input and a blue logo. It is trying to market its cult isolationism and doomsday message in a world increasingly devoted to free thought through education and the internet.
The Watchtower’s forced change of approach has revealed neither the humanity of its executives nor any spiritual charisma. The TV cameras have erased any spiritual mystique or enlightenment from its governing body, which notion may have held sway right up to the end of the last century, instead it has exposed the fact that the men in charge are rather ordinary uncharismatic puppeteers controlling the show. And what a paranoid show it is! Never have they demonstrated any of their own Biblical prophetic utterances to come true and yet that was their sole claim for a divinely mandated existence. . .
Their message in essence is: obey the instructions of the GB or you are mincemeat at Armageddon.
It has never been possible to fool all of the people all of the time. Today it is only possible to fool the ignorant and those who have strong emotional reasons to want to be deceived.
As the evidence arrives on this site; there is an increasing number of JWs who remain in the org awake to TTATT (the truth about the truth), to its politics of mind control and social manipulation. I suggest that the JW org will increase in those who are PIMO (physically in and mentally out) to the point when they become a majority and criticism of their hurtful religion becomes acceptable. The org is hemorrhaging numbers in the Western world and congregations becoming hollow shells of unbelievers; it will rapidly disintegrate as a tipping point is reached.
So there are two significant aspects of the cult’s future: the JW property empire may continue as any other commercial concern would-- but at the heart of the cult; its premise that it alone has been identified by the Almighty as his exclusive appointee, is under critical scrutiny and rapidly increasing doubt.
Without divine appointment they have no authority.
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My Younger Brother Has Left The Witnesses!! :-D
by pale.emperor inabsolutely thrilled to give you the news that my younger brother, a zealous full-time pioneer has left the witnesses!!.
i haven't seen or spoke to him in a year.
i'd lost all contact with him, no facebook, no mobile number, i didn't even know his address because he'd moved house.
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Stupendous news for you PE and hope and encouragement to the rest of us here with family trapped in the JW cult.
Let him know that your friends here are all with him. Keep us informed.
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What is behind your choice of forum user name?
by stuckinarut2 injust curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.
there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.
i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.
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Half banana
@ Wake, Stephen Letts has had to withdraw from giving any more talks at the summer conventions this year, he has severe sunburn on his tongue.